« previous next »
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: E10 fuel, yes or no?  (Read 3194 times)

Steve McF

  • Viggen
  • ****
  • Posts: 1643
  • Number of thanks: 10
  • 9-5 2.0LPT.....as was, and now 9-3ss 2.0T Aero :)
    • View Profile
E10 fuel, yes or no?
« on: 29 June 2021, 12:21:28 PM »
Apparently, for cars made since the mid 1980s, yes!!!!! Phew!!

Logged

sgould

  • Aerobic
  • SST paid up supporter
  • Overboost
  • *
  • Posts: 5397
  • Number of thanks: 345
  • 2006 9-5 Aero estate - Hirsched.
    • View Profile
    • Christine Bennett - soprano
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #1 on: 29 June 2021, 01:56:25 PM »
Yes, no issue for most.

Different for older cars of other makes which don't comply until the early 2000's.
Logged
Help support SaabTechTalk by making a Lump Sum donation or by opening a subscription. 
Options available are in your Profile/Actions.

welshwizard

  • LPT
  • **
  • Posts: 201
  • Number of thanks: 2
    • View Profile
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #2 on: 01 July 2021, 01:23:24 PM »
As well as the APC system we have the crazy Finns to thank for this, basically they had their 99s running on all sorts of stuff showing how adaptable the Saab designed engine was.

Saab did a test run in Czechoslovakia in Soviet times when they had a fleet of APC turbos, plus a 900 GLi and a 99 driving on various grades of petrol without any problems.
Logged

welshwizard

  • LPT
  • **
  • Posts: 201
  • Number of thanks: 2
    • View Profile
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #3 on: 16 August 2021, 01:58:20 PM »
Filled up my NG 9-5 with E10 yesterday evening in Denham, Bucks. Not much in the way of signage at the petrol station.

Filled up our Golf on Saturday with E5.
Logged

phoenix

  • SaabTechTalk-Team
  • Test pilot
  • *
  • Posts: 1161
  • Number of thanks: 108
    • View Profile
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #4 on: 17 August 2021, 08:25:36 AM »
It's a bit of a swizz really. Independent testing shows that it's 6-10% less efficient than regular fuel. Yet we're paying the same duty on it, so the Govt gets extra tax revenue for nothing. If it were put into other environmental protection measures, I wouldn't mind...
Logged

sgould

  • Aerobic
  • SST paid up supporter
  • Overboost
  • *
  • Posts: 5397
  • Number of thanks: 345
  • 2006 9-5 Aero estate - Hirsched.
    • View Profile
    • Christine Bennett - soprano
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #5 on: 17 August 2021, 09:36:44 AM »
So, as 98/99 octane is only 5% more expensive than regular fuel, maybe cheaper in the long run?
Logged
Help support SaabTechTalk by making a Lump Sum donation or by opening a subscription. 
Options available are in your Profile/Actions.

Geoff1951

  • SST paid up supporter
  • Test pilot
  • *
  • Posts: 1068
  • Number of thanks: 22
  • Sadly Saabless, but with a new mistress.
    • View Profile
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #6 on: 17 August 2021, 10:36:04 AM »
Quote from: phoenix on 17 August 2021, 08:25:36 AM
It's a bit of a swizz really. Independent testing shows that it's 6-10% less efficient than regular fuel. Yet we're paying the same duty on it, so the Govt gets extra tax revenue for nothing. If it were put into other environmental protection measures, I wouldn't mind...
Quote from: sgould on 17 August 2021, 09:36:44 AM
So, as 98/99 octane is only 5% more expensive than regular fuel, maybe cheaper in the long run?

Two interesting points there, chaps.
I might have missed it, but is the 98/99 octane stuff staying at 5% biofuel?  If so, the case for using it for fuel consumption reasons is worth looking into.
Logged

sgould

  • Aerobic
  • SST paid up supporter
  • Overboost
  • *
  • Posts: 5397
  • Number of thanks: 345
  • 2006 9-5 Aero estate - Hirsched.
    • View Profile
    • Christine Bennett - soprano
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #7 on: 17 August 2021, 01:04:09 PM »
As I understand it, the 98/99 is staying at E5.  At least for now.
Logged
Help support SaabTechTalk by making a Lump Sum donation or by opening a subscription. 
Options available are in your Profile/Actions.

phoenix

  • SaabTechTalk-Team
  • Test pilot
  • *
  • Posts: 1161
  • Number of thanks: 108
    • View Profile
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #8 on: 17 August 2021, 01:18:12 PM »
Yes, the 98/99 RON may well prove to be more cost effective, firstly because you should get more MPG out of it than E10 and also, for turbo models, the higher octane enables more optimum ignition advance (and thus output)
Logged

Geoff1951

  • SST paid up supporter
  • Test pilot
  • *
  • Posts: 1068
  • Number of thanks: 22
  • Sadly Saabless, but with a new mistress.
    • View Profile
Re: E10 fuel, yes or no?
« Reply #9 on: 17 August 2021, 06:51:54 PM »

Thanks both.
Logged
Pages: [1]
« previous next »