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New Saabs have got much cheaper
« on: 03 July 2011, 10:31:55 AM »
Here are the brochure prices for the most expensive new Saabs in the UK at that time:
(excuse the tabs not working!)

1949 Saab 92                  £400
1960 Saab 96 2/S               £885
1965 Saab 96 Monte Carlo    £1,059
1970 Saab 99CM2               £1,295
1975 Saab 99 C Coupe            £2,617
1976 ditto                  £4,355
1978 Saab 99 turbo               £7,850
1980 Saab 900 turbo       £11,100
1985 Saab 9000 turbo16        £15,995
1986 Saab 9000turbo16SE    £22,495
1988 Saab 9000SE               £25,295
1991 Saab 9000Carlsson     £27,995
1995 Saab 9000Aero      £31,995
1996 Saab 9-5Griffin      £33,995
2000 Saab 9-5GriffinEstate   £34,995
2005 Saab 9-5AeroEstate   £29,536
2009 Saab9-5 2.3TEstate   £25,898


Note the steep price rises in the 1970s (almost tenfold) and in the mid 1980s.  And remember that, in this middle period, things like catalytic converters, ABS and leather were extra (on top of the prices quoted) whereas they are now included in the overall price - not to mention sat-nav and all the other new technology.

Prices started falling in real terms from the mid 1990s and, on top of that, serious discounting started in the mid 2000s.  New (pre-reg) cars were available in 2009 for up to £7k less than the brochure price.  For example, a 9-5 Griffin would have cost £34K in 1996.  I paid under £19k for a new 9-5 2.3T (auto and fully loaded) last year.  That's almost HALF!

The brochure price for the new 9-5 is expensive when compared to the discounted original 9-5 but it does compare well with the price we (our employers ?) paid fifteen years ago.  And now there are big discounts available on the new 9-5.   The high spec Aero can be had for under £30k which is much the same as a 9000 Carlsson cost twenty years ago.  Its probably a better car but I would quite like a new Carlsson!

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #1 on: 03 July 2011, 12:44:16 PM »
Wow - thats interesting comparisons - how did you find all that out??  :o

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #2 on: 03 July 2011, 01:28:57 PM »
It gets even more interesting if you modify those prices using the Retail Price Index to allow for inflation.

I also added the current 9-5 Aero XWD

1949 Saab 92 _______________________________ 400 ____ 11760
1960 Saab 96 2/S ___________________________ 885 ____ 16841
1965 Saab 96 Monte Carlo __________________ 1059 ____ 17213
1970 Saab 99 CM2 __________________________ 1295 ____ 17006
1975 Saab 99 C Coupe ______________________ 2617 ____ 20254
1976 ditto ________________________________ 4355 ____ 27322
1978 Saab 99 turbo ________________________ 7850 ____ 38433
1980 Saab 900 turbo ______________________ 11100 ____ 41986
1985 Saab 9000 turbo16 ___________________ 15995 ____ 41250
1986 Saab 9000 turbo16SE _________________ 22495 ____ 54970
1988 Saab 9000 SE ________________________ 25292 ____ 57586
1991 Saab 9000 Carlsson __________________ 27995 ____ 50572
1995 Saab 9000 Aero ______________________ 31995 ____ 51543
1996 Saab 9-5 Griffin ____________________ 33995 ____ 53233
2000 Saab 9-5 Griffin Estate _____________ 34995 ____ 47495
2005 Saab 9-5 Aero Estate ________________ 29536 ____ 36775
2009 Saab 9-5 2.3T Estate ________________ 25898 ____ 28992
2011 Saab 9-5 Aero XWD (basic) ___________ 38625 ____ 38625
2011 Saab 9-5 Aero XWD (fully optioned) __ 46520 ____ 46520
« Last Edit: 03 July 2011, 01:32:20 PM by sgould »
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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #3 on: 03 July 2011, 01:53:10 PM »
Wow - thats interesting comparisons - how did you find all that out?? 

I have the brochures/price lists - and most of the in between ones too.

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #4 on: 03 July 2011, 02:28:17 PM »
There's an online RPI index and I used Excel to work it out.

If you want to line things up, choose a fixed font like Courier for the table.  There is a "table" function on here (the button to the left of the #, but I haven't worked out how to use it!!
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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2011, 01:55:53 PM »
Vector 93-ttid 180 last November - £31200 with leccy seats and things
Similar spec 2012 model 93-ttid 180 now (vector no longer exists) - £26310

or is that just because one would be mad to buy a new Saab right now?

Hi all, and congrats on new site, btw

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2011, 02:03:44 PM »
Welcome, Chris- good to see you here

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #7 on: 04 July 2011, 02:22:59 PM »
Welcome Chris! :) 

We were going to come and stay in the spring, but I had a heart attack instead! :(
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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #8 on: 04 July 2011, 03:19:45 PM »
Fawlty! What are you driving these days?

Really interesting comparisons above. For me the real interest is after the 9k was introduced - then you're comparing the same market segment, whereas the 900, 99 and earlier cars were smaller and (arguably) not aimed at the same market.

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #9 on: 04 July 2011, 05:19:02 PM »
2008 Turbo x. You may recall I wasn't happy with it when I got it. Still not happy. "The best Saab ever" is certainly the worst Saab I've ever had (and I've had 13). Yes, it corners as though on rails in the wet, but that's about it. Ride hard as nails, noisy, no oomph below 3000rpm, and between 19 and 22 mpg. The quoted ttid prices were when I have asked for trade in. My car cost £39500 exactly 3 years ago, it has just done 20k miles and I am offered £11k for it. That must be a record, even for a Saab!

Wow, sgould, scary stuff! I hope you are OK now!
« Last Edit: 04 July 2011, 05:24:20 PM by fawlty »

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #10 on: 04 July 2011, 06:35:37 PM »
Welcome Fawlty - good to have you here   ;D

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #11 on: 04 July 2011, 08:12:05 PM »
according to my receipt in 1998 my 900xs cost £16,700 pound ???
And while in my local saab dealer the other week there were 2 brand new cars in there and one was £25k!! :o

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #12 on: 04 July 2011, 09:25:08 PM »
 

Haha, Welcome Chris

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #13 on: 04 July 2011, 09:28:46 PM »
I used to own a 1986 Saab 9k and from memory the sales receipt was for £22k ish and there was also a service bill for around £650  ::) I however bought it when it was a couple of years old and saved a fortune  ;D

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Re: New Saabs have got much cheaper
« Reply #14 on: 05 July 2011, 10:26:10 AM »
The big shock in 1975 and 1976 was the devaluation of sterling which put up the price of imported cars.