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tyre sensors
« on: 02 May 2015, 09:12:41 AM »
What do i need and what other makes models are compatible. Tech 2 or not. Thanx in advance.

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #1 on: 02 May 2015, 09:31:54 AM »
We have them on SWMBO's 9-3.  I wouldn't go with the Saab system, it's very expensive and the bolt-in sensors corrode and fail.

It doesn't tell you the pressure, just when it's low. 

I went for a set of Tyrepal sensors which just replace the valve caps and seem to be working well.

http://www.tyrepal.co.uk/
« Last Edit: 02 May 2015, 09:34:06 AM by sgould »
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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #2 on: 02 May 2015, 09:48:59 AM »
The problem there is i want a factory look and plus those sensors can be stolen very easily and don't wanna be replacing them too often. The sensors would only corrode of you were inflating the tyres regular due to poor fitting and sealing. Once the moisture disappears in the tyre no moisture should get in unless outside air or from a compressor gets in.

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2015, 11:29:15 AM »
I went for a set of Tyrepal sensors which just replace the valve caps and seem to be working well.

I wouldn't fit anything that holds the tyre valves open, the valves are there to stop air getting out and the cap is a secondary air retention mechanism.

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #4 on: 02 May 2015, 12:22:33 PM »
A neighbour had them on a Ford Galaxy which had been a Ford company car.  He told me that each valve/sensor was about £93 to replace - and the b****y EU now decrees that they are fitted on all new cars.

If you are too stupid to check your tyre pressures regularly then in my opinion you are too stupid to be driving!

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #5 on: 02 May 2015, 01:09:39 PM »
How nice of you to jump in and tell me I'm STUPID. For your information the car is my wife's and she has a bad back and shoulder an needs to have an op and finds it very difficult to check them. I do check them as often as i can but not always possible at 6am or 11pm. Politeness goes a long way when replying to posts maybe remember that before calling someone stupid next time. Thank you!!

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #6 on: 02 May 2015, 01:31:30 PM »
A neighbour had them on a Ford Galaxy which had been a Ford company car.  He told me that each valve/sensor was about £93 to replace - and the b****y EU now decrees that they are fitted on all new cars.


That's probably the price when they were new technology direct from Ford for a genuine part, I see you can get these sensors for about £30 now. The same with the Saab sensors which were expensive when new but are now available aftermarket and genuine for less than they cost originally. I reckon that TPMS is a good idea as they can alert you to problems early on. I reckon that when I had a tyre blow out that it probably started as a slow puncture as a few miles before the blow-out something rattled from underneath the car and if I'd had TPMS it could have warned me and meant I managed to stop in a parking area instead of having to stop on a bend on a fast dual carriageway with no hard shoulder. I don't know why you use this to have a dig at the EU either, TPMS has been mandatory in the USA for longer and as a technology has been around since the 80's, I can see many other good things over the years that have been legislated for which improve car safety (such as seatbelts, ABS, ESP etc.), TPMS is just another thing on that path.

If you are too stupid to check your tyre pressures regularly then in my opinion you are too stupid to be driving![/font][/size][/color]

That's a bit harsh. For example I've got a very slow leak on one of my front wheels, The only reason I don't get it fixed is that it's on a tyre that is getting very close to replacement time and a tatty rim that probably needs a refurb so I don't want to spend £20 having the tyre refitted and find it still goes down. I check this and all the other tyres weekly and pump them up but sometimes it's lost that bit more pressure than I'd like so if TPMS was there to warn me it would be a bonus. What about if you get a screw stuck in a tyre on a long journey which causes a slow puncture for example? Knowing about it earlier means you might be able to save the tyre too.

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2015, 01:55:37 PM »
You need the four sensors and the box to read them, etc.

Probably a good idea.  SWMBO changed to winter tyres without the sensors and lost a tyre.  On the Carlsson, the winters were £150 each and the tyre that went was only 100 miles old! :(
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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #8 on: 02 May 2015, 02:52:05 PM »
first thing you need to check is you have the loom for the TPMS module..

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #9 on: 02 May 2015, 03:10:02 PM »
Okthanx and well said guys in glad others feel the same way about someone jumping into a post and assuming you're thick!   Is there a way to check if i have the pays already they're and the sensors were just removed.

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #10 on: 02 May 2015, 09:14:28 PM »
Item 5

Article : Control unit
PartNo : 12846372
Usage : 2009-2011, TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM
Ch. 91025166--
Order Quantity : 1


Item 7 (for convertible)

Article : Bracket
PartNo : 12770219
Usage : CV, TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM
Order Quantity : 1


Item 1

Article : Sensor
PartNo : 13227143
Usage : TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM
Order Quantity : 1 (four needed)


Item 3

Article : Valve
PartNo : 9198632
Order Quantity : 1 (four needed)


Item 4

Article : Sleeve nut
PartNo : 24455308
Order Quantity : 1 (four needed)


Item 2

Article : Valve cap
PartNo : 9193183
Order Quantity : 1 (four needed)



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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2015, 10:40:31 PM »
Is there a way to check if i have the pays already they're and the sensors were just removed.

You know what, I've just had a look on ebay and the control module is available second-hand in the states for about £50 shipped, (brand new unit is about £100+vat in the UK) a set of 4 second-hand sensors in the states is about £35 or new ones appear to be about £22 each including shipping.

Of course you'd need to get all the sensors fitted to the tyres (although, you might try adding the ECU before paying for sensors) and then fit the ecu and have someone add it to the car with Tech-2 (might need security access) and I think it should all work (although I've never tried so I don't know!), this is if the wiring for the TPMS module is already in the car...

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #12 on: 02 May 2015, 10:52:36 PM »
You can't check it off a wheel easily.  The sensor only transmits when it's moving faster enough for long enough.

If you remove all four sensors, the car assumes "winter mode" and shuts down TPMS.  So I didn't have to do anything when the four winter tyres were fitted.  But equally I got no reading from the one wheel left in the shed two feet from the parking place when the other three were two miles away in the Yellow Box store.
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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #13 on: 05 May 2015, 10:52:32 AM »
If you are ordering stuff from the US of A don't forget you'll have to pay VAT and the Post Office's VAT collection fee.

" If you are receiving a package from overseas (unless it’s from another EU Country), please be aware that it may incur customs charges. Any package assessed as being liable for customs charges will also incur a Royal Mail handling fee of £8.

Any goods imported into the UK over the value of £15 are liable to import VAT. Gifts between private individuals over the value of £36 are also liable for VAT. Goods and gifts over these values may also be liable for customs duty. You no longer have to pay customs duty for goods up to the value of £135, however you will still be required to pay import VAT and excise duty where applicable."

http://www.royalmail.com/help-and-support/I-need-advice-about-customs-requirements#Receiving%20mail%20from%20abroad

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users

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Re: tyre sensors
« Reply #14 on: 12 May 2015, 09:47:52 AM »
Aye - it's a bloody swizz.  >:(

There are ways around that crap but you need to know someone in the country prepared to send you gifts.

I do not condone 'fiddling the books' or breaking the law, but merely using a friend to help you out occasionally  ::) ;)

I was shocked at how much tax I had to pay on an item I shipped in from the USA. So I now whenever I want something not available here, I send a friend some money for his birthday, and he sources whatever it is I would like for my birthday and sends it to me.