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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #45 on: 16 October 2017, 03:17:57 PM »
It's really not a great kit is it!
I've managed to trim the bezel and I've sprayed it all with black Vinyl paint, it's looking a lot better but I'm still not 100% happy with it. One thing I missed is the odd size the 7" screen gives, I'd be a lot happier if I could get it flusher with the dash.

Awaiting a reply from the manufacturer regarding wheel controls, but to be honest I can live without it. You can do more with "OK Google" and voice commands.

Now I just need to spend a bit of time tweaking/personalising settings.

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #46 on: 16 October 2017, 05:49:03 PM »
a few questions

does the integration kit you bought mean that all of the speakers are working including the sub or do you need to wire the sub separately?

you mentioned trimming the pots to bring the output to line level, how do you know that it is at line level?

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #47 on: 16 October 2017, 07:54:47 PM »
Hi W

I only have the 7 speaker system so no sub. There are two separate (line level and speaker level) sub outputs from the head unit if needs be. However looking at the pinouts on the Denso unit, there's no separate sub line out so I suspect the sub output is derived by the amp so you don't need to worry about it. sgould has the 8 speaker system so I'm sure can confirm.

The head unit has both speaker level and line level outputs.
Originally I wanted to use the line level outputs as that's what the amp is expecting. However 2 points - one it involved cutting the existing wiring loom and somehow connecting the twisted pair line out cables from the head unit to the wiring loom, via isolators. Doable but added work. Two I was advised that there would be less interference using the speaker outputs as on the cheaper units the line outs are unlikely to be properly isolated inside the unit.

The loom I've used takes the speaker outs and via a "preamp" (basically a set or variable resistors.) brings that level down to line, goes through an isolator for each channel and thus outputs to the amp line level.
The pots are the variable resistors. When you first fire up the unit have them turned down as low as they'll go. I then set the volume on the head unit to about 3/4 of max, played an mp3 track (or tune the radio to a station.) and turned the pots up in turn until they reached a decent level. I then edged the head unit volume up towards max and made sure the level wasn't going to high (no distortion.). Personally I've left quite a lot of headroom as I was worried about overloading the speakers.
As there is a pot for front L/R and rear L/R you need to balance them. I spent some time going between the front and back seats. In the end the two variable resistors for the rear L/R were set a bit higher than the fronts two.

Hope this makes sense, I'm a bit tired so probably not explaining myself too well...


« Last Edit: 16 October 2017, 07:56:42 PM by fka »

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #48 on: 17 October 2017, 08:06:29 AM »
Yes, the sub feed in the OEM system is derived within the power amp.

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #49 on: 17 October 2017, 05:27:00 PM »
so provided it gets the 4 channel audio, the power amp must do the low and high pass filtering to feed speakers and sub

good oh

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #50 on: 24 October 2017, 07:18:43 PM »
For reference, I've just ordered this fascia kit. It should allow me to set the head unit back far and flush enough to get the 178x102mm trim on, so will hopefully look a lot tidier. Unsure whether or not it comes with the screw hole covers, may have to source then separately. Winging it's way from Guangdong Province so may arrive sometime in November  :o

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B014SMJNGM/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #51 on: 25 October 2017, 08:49:01 AM »

did the unit you bought fit into the existing cage in the dash or did you need to buy one of those as well?

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #52 on: 25 October 2017, 12:08:15 PM »
That would have been too easy :)
The original cage is a non-standard size, so no. The connects2 fascia kit I originally bought comes with the fascia and standard double din size cage.
The kit I've just ordered doesn't require a cage, the brackets on the kit bolt directly to the head unit via slotted channels, allowing the head unit to be set back far enough to fit flush with the dash (At least I'm hoping so ..). And then the fascia is screwed to the dash in the same manner as the Saab CD/radio (Non sat nav) head unit.

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #53 on: 04 November 2017, 10:08:43 PM »
New fascia arrived and I'm quite pleased with the way it looks. Possibly not the best made bit of kit and I'm happy the Android head unit is very light weight. But saying that it seems sturdy enough when it's all screwed together.
There is another larger trim surround that came with the kit that would fill the gap between the fascia and the head unit a little better. However it's a very tight fit around the head unit and would need a little trimming around the volume/power knob area, I'll maybe look into that another day.
Still need to source the 4 screw covers, which obviously weren't included..


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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #54 on: 06 November 2017, 04:28:04 PM »
is that the finish you get with the fascia? or are there plugs to hide the screws?

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #55 on: 07 November 2017, 12:07:01 AM »
The screw holes and locating slot for the satnav cage and standard cd/radio units are in the same place. As I said the kit doesn't come with the screw covers so I'll need to source them from a salvaged standard cd/radio head unit or buy them. I'm hoping a friend who's breaking a 9-5 can oblige..

http://www.rendcarparts.com/saab/parts/12759007/RD12759007
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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #56 on: 08 November 2017, 01:42:40 PM »
thanks for the info

will probably be going down this route fairly soon the "repair" I carried out to my denso unit means it is still temperamental, currently looking at different autopumpkin units to figure out which one is for me

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #57 on: 08 November 2017, 05:42:50 PM »
Whatever you go for, I'd advise you go for one running Android 7 (Nougat). They're reported to boot up much quicker than units running 6. I made my choice and am stuck with 6, it's fine once it's up and running and a whole lot nicer to look at with the Nova Launcher but it is slow to boot.. around 45 seconds

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #58 on: 20 November 2017, 10:19:16 AM »
I have all the bits and pieces assembled for this save some additional bullet and splice crimps, bought this pumpkin head unit and the associated add-on for DAB

so a job for the coming weekend

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Re: Edna non OEM head unit integration
« Reply #59 on: 20 November 2017, 04:37:17 PM »
Nice unit, and a good price!
Good luck with the install..