Thought I would start a new thread on the forum to help make it come alive!
I have a MY 2007 Aero Estate with the Automatic gearbox. The Co2 emission is 235 gm/km.
This falls into band L which is between 226 to 255 - a whopping £ 445 per year.
This is even more of a rip off as the next lower band is K which is between 201 and 225 costing £ 260 per year. I am, therefore, only 10 grams above the limit for band L and for this I have to pay an extra £ 185 per year!!
The new Aero Automatics have a rating of 190 gm/km which would fall into band J at a much more reasonable £ 245 per year.
I have sent an e-mail to SAAB asking them if they could re-programme my ECU to lower the emissions and had a not very satisfactory reply saying they won't do it. The reply is shown below:
Thank you for contacting Saab Great Britain regarding Saab vehicle.
Unfortunately we can not retrospectively reduce the emissions on a vehicle.
Does this mean can't or won't. This seems strange as all they have to do is load up the latest ECU S/W.
As my Car get's older this TAX band will make it more and more difficult to sell.
Has anybody out there had any thoughts on the subject and has anybody any ideas how I could proceed to lower the TAX band. I have a strong suspicion that it will not be easy from the admin side !!
Thanks in advance
Ian
They could, maybe, change the map to reduce emissions, but you would still pay the full amount of Road Tax. It's set by passing tests and things before any model is put on the market. No one-off exemption.
It works the other way too. If you have a small car and tune it a lot and increase the emissions, your tax won't change.
Must admit that was one of the things that put me off the Dame Edna 9-5 Aero. I was after an auto, so that put it into the £445 band.
I think it's ridiculous that I'm paying £225 (or thereabouts) for my 1.9TiD Auto 9-5. I'm averaging more mpg than I did with my old manual Skoda Superb PD130 diesel (45mpg vs 42mpg ish) - and that was around £165 VED per year. Have had up to 53mpg with the 9-5, whereas the best I ever got with the Skoda was about 47mpg. No where near as bad as the Aero though :'(
That is harsh! I pay around the £240 mark for an 06 Aero manual ::)
Yep, the same here for our 03 93 Aero.
Hello,
This raised it head last year in the old site.
If i remember rightly it would appear that the incorrect emmission has been inputed on a 2006 aero auto. After a letter from Saab confirmed the correct emmision the log book was change and a full refund was given and the car is now in the lower tax band.
Have a look at the old site for the full details
regards
jedi
It`s an absolute joke, although i have a 9.3 1.9 tdi, costing i think £165 per year i also till lately owned a Shogun 3.2 did, which when i bought it new in 2006 was £200 per year, this rose to £445,yet if i`d bought the jeep 6 months and 1 day earlier it would be approx £200 pounds cheaper, same jeep,same emissions everything,to say that really wound me up would be an understatement.
What needs to done is, everytime the car is MOTd, the emissions should be recorded and you pay your rate of tax on that
If 2 people buy identical cars, 1 services it when it should be and generally looks after it, the other doesn't give a damn and never services it. The first car will be a much cleaner car, but your still paying the same.
For some reason the DVLA think my 1.8t is a 2.0t despite the badging and registration to the contrary. To be fair the cost differential is small but it does hack me off.
Quote from: The Don on 05 July 2011, 09:33:57 AM
For some reason the DVLA think my 1.8t is a 2.0t despite the badging and registration to the contrary. To be fair the cost differential is small but it does hack me off.
the 1.8t's are 2.0 litre :-)
The 1.8 just denoted a lower powered 2 litre
Also, from an earlier post, some of the later models (1.9 tid's etc) lowered their emissions by having longer gearing on the gearbox, so in that instance a ecu mapping will mot reduce the emissions to the current levels.
Must admit I was put off buying a '10 plate Aero V6 the other day, I looked at the Tax Disk and saw £950!! Cough, Splutter!!
My new approach is to buy a LPT and then uprate it, as the tax doesn't change for conversions!!
BTW I don't think that retrospectively changing the emissions would work, as the DVLA only use the manufaturers published model information. I added LPG to my 93, but it isn't accepted for a lower tax band. DVLA stated that only LPG conversions from the factory counted, as there is a manufacturers spec sheet published.
Antony.
Now the fairest way of paying this so called emmissions tax is that your annual mileage is recorded and weighed up against the vehicles emmisions rate. Then calculate how much your have polluted the air. Thus a diesel that is currently very cheap to tax but may do 30k miles again pollutes a lot more than say an Aero auto which is expensive to tax doing 10k per year.
An to ease regulation why not remove road tax and put it on the cost of petrol/diesel so we all pay fairly.
Secondly you can have you V5 emmisions changed if there is an error on it. This has been done in the past and will contiue to be done. The process is to get the vehicle manufacture to write to you confirming the official co2 figures for you car then write to the DVLA.
They will change the V5 and refudn your losses.
Regards
Jedi
Quote from: antonyn on 05 July 2011, 01:27:03 PM
Must admit I was put off buying a '10 plate Aero V6 the other day, I looked at the Tax Disk and saw £950!! Cough, Splutter!!
(I think that £950 may have been the first year of tax, with it being a 10' plate. The big X5's are the same, near enought a grand, then drops the the £400-odd yrs after that).
My new approach is to buy a LPT and then uprate it, as the tax doesn't change for conversions!!
BTW I don't think that retrospectively changing the emissions would work, as the DVLA only use the manufaturers published model information. I added LPG to my 93, but it isn't accepted for a lower tax band. DVLA stated that only LPG conversions from the factory counted, as there is a manufacturers spec sheet published.
Antony.