2.2 Diesel, non starter P0607 (6)

[carrera]

... and now this post makes sense

https://www.trionictuning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12408

[carrera]

Well, that seemed to work, after waiting for 240 seconds, the Immo codes were sorted. I did have a P1613 remaining, but operation of the key fob and a power cycle seemed to sort that.

I am now in that difficult position of bleeding the fuel system. I have used my suction bleeder, which I am never impressed with and have fuel (and air) at the schrader valve. I also tried pressurising the tank to force fuel out of the schrader valve, but that didn't seem to work this time. The spare batteries I have to use are not up to scratch, which is making life more difficult than need be, but running the starter with jump leads from the TTID & some brake cleaner (my easy start) in the intake tract has shown some signs of life, I reckon I have one cylinder bled through. The battery that is in the car is on charge, I'll give it time to top up the charge & then try again, with the jump car in circuit & see if I can get the car fired up.

When I first rescued this car it was an absolute nightmare to get it running, but once the fuel was pulled through everything was fine. The fact that it is firing one one cylinder is indicative that the pump is installed correctly & working - I acquired the pump on an engine of unknown heritage

[Audax]

Good luck with that, they are a nightmare to get the fuel through and primed. It's always the fear that you did something wrong or the pump is faulty that makes you wonder if it will ever fire. We used to put them on the garage car starter and run them 30 seconds at a time, then wait a while... if not you might burn out the starter motor... don't ask how I know that.

[carrera]

Still working in it....

I did get it toi fire & run for about 3 seconds, then it died, chucking a p0149 code. The resolution of which is to check the valve timing. Yeah, been there, just done that.

You're spot on about the fear that I did something wrong, or that the pump isn't working. 

I'm not going to use the garage starter as that is a suspect regarding the failure of the original pump. I have been using the TTid as a jump car, which does mean that the starter achieves a reasonable speed, but I'm not convinced about the delivery amps when the engine is running. Probably some bit of electronics on the power system I don't understand, so I'm charging up the old TTiD battery, which was rated as 900 AH when new. Probably about 200 now   and will see if that works. The good thing about my battery charger is it will deliver enough in normal charging mode to charge a battery up in 15-20 minutes

I have continued to try & bleed the fuel system using my suction bleeder. The rear of the car is jacked up. So far I have pulled through 2 litres of fuel, and it's still pulling air through. The first litre was pretty black, it's now much more towards a clear fluid.

I also have a hand fluid transfer pump. That did nothing

The fuel gauge shows half a tank. I might pull the level sensor out, just to make sure it isn't lying to me

What's the standard time for bleeding a 2.2 TiD ?

[Audax]

That's an alarming code,I had a look at the 9-5 diagnostics and it's suggests timing, but if you look in wis under the 9-3 then it suggests it's a pump fault: https://saabwisonline.com/9-3-9400/2002/2-engine/psg-16-d223l/fault-diagnosis-diagnostic-trouble-codes/p0149

I would say clear the code, try again. But given where you're at and that you've got fuel through I'm wondering if that pump is faulty 

[carrera]

I cleared the code and it has not recurred

In my mind I thought it may be related to my use of easy start (ignitable substance being available before anticipated compression ignition firing point). It has not recurred, and the car has no DTC codes, in fact none since that one.

With judicious use of brake cleaner in the inlet pipe from the intercooler, I have been able to fire it up & have it fun for a few seconds. The revs climb to ~ 3000 rpm and then it dies. This tells me that the camshaft timing is correct

I'm now up to 5 litres fuel pulled through, and still getting air. I might see if the old "unscrew the nuts on the end of the injectors" method might work to bleed it through. Had to do that on my truck a few weeks ago, you get one cylinder at a time firing. However, the nuts aren't really accessible without disassembly of cam cover & air inlet, so it's a lot of faffing around for each cylinder individually

I'm starting to think that there might be an air leak on the fuel delivery line. Even if the pump was toast, I should still be able to get an air free fuel feed to it, shouldn't I ?