HELP..

[chrishandy28]

Quess I'm taking it to a shop.

[sgould]

Picture is difficult to see but what you describe seems normal.  Throttle is electric.  Cable is for position sensor and backup if the electrics fail.

Small pipe sucks in the oil vapour from the crankcase.

[stevetreacy]

Hi,

Throttle body always seems to do that. Does it on mine, especially so when turning off.  As for the oil, check the one way valve in the crankcase ventilation system is ok and attached. If you have engine cover off its the white plastic connector on a short piece of hose that goes into top of throttle body. Cheap to just change it.The other end goes down back of engine to the oil trap. I clean mine out every couple of months, its always oily, yet uses very little oil. You may as well clean throttle body and the charge air pipe too for good measure. When you get it TECH2,d make a note of all codes read and pending and have all software checked and updated.
keep us posted, hope we can get you running soon.

steve

[chrishandy28]

Thanks sgould,
I figured it was probably normal but I'm just not too familiar with these or any car newer than about 2000 so I thought I'd ask.
I hope the amount of oil in the throttle body tube was normal because it seemed like a decent amount.

[chrishandy28]

O.K. I'll check that out and probably just get a new one like you suggested. I already did clean the throttle body, atleast from the front opening. It actually looked pretty good and clean except a little dark rim of grim where the butterfly seats in the body.

I will get the codes and post them. I went to the place that "programmed" it and they said they believe they married the TWICE to the ecu but were'nt sure. Thats when I decided to take it to a Saab shop (not a dealer) I'm pretty sure it just isn't fully programmed(married) yet.
I keep you all posted

Thanks again everyone for all the good advice.

Hi,

Throttle body always seems to do that. Does it on mine, especially so when turning off.  As for the oil, check the one way valve in the crankcase ventilation system is ok and attached. If you have engine cover off its the white plastic connector on a short piece of hose that goes into top of throttle body. Cheap to just change it.The other end goes down back of engine to the oil trap. I clean mine out every couple of months, its always oily, yet uses very little oil. You may as well clean throttle body and the charge air pipe too for good measure. When you get it TECH2,d make a note of all codes read and pending and have all software checked and updated.
keep us posted, hope we can get you running soon.

steve

[chrishandy28]

I got it running or rather the indi shop got it running. It only took him 20 min. to reprogram or marry the TWICE to the ECU. He really didn't want to mess with it because I had put a used unit in it, he even told me he didn't think they could be married since it was from a diff. car, but he reluctently kept trying and voila it started up!

New question; is there anything I should do other than change the oil since it hasn't run in about 5-6 months? I'm a little worried about the turbo bearing being without oil for so long but I don't know anything I could do about that. It has about 3/4 of a tank of fuel but it doesn't smell bad.

[sgould]

Well Done!

As far as I know on a 9-5 you can reprogram things many times.  It's only on the newer 9-3 that things get difficult and some things can only be done once.

Look after the turbo, it's an expensive item on the V6 as it's part of the manifold.

Change the timing belt religiously on time, it's expensive if it goes, the valves hit the pistons.

And keep an eye on the water and oil.  If you see signs of them mixing, check the oil cooler.  It lies in the 'vee' on  top of the engine and it corrodes eventually, letting oil into the water and vice-versa.

Otherwise, it should be good!!

[stevetreacy]

Great news

How many miles has your car done? Do you have any service history with it? Would go gentle for a few miles and then check all fluids.

steve

[chrishandy28]

Well Done!

As far as I know on a 9-5 you can reprogram things many times.  It's only on the newer 9-3 that things get difficult and some things can only be done once.

Look after the turbo, it's an expensive item on the V6 as it's part of the manifold.

Change the timing belt religiously on time, it's expensive if it goes, the valves hit the pistons.

And keep an eye on the water and oil.  If you see signs of them mixing, check the oil cooler.  It lies in the 'vee' on  top of the engine and it corrodes eventually, letting oil into the water and vice-versa.

Otherwise, it should be good!!

Ya, I'm going to do the timing belt pretty soon and if I get the nerve up I might go ahead and take that oil cooler off and up-grade it (I think I read on here that there is an improved design that can be changed over to) or just clean and inspect it. As far as the turbo, I hope its in good condition because I don't want to replace that. But are there any rebuild kits out there for these turbos? I've seen rebuild kits for other ones but these are Saabs so I'm not sure.

Thanks again for all the help.

[chrishandy28]

Great news

How many miles has your car done? Do you have any service history with it? Would go gentle for a few miles and then check all fluids.

steve

The car has 160000 mls, no I didn't get any history with it but I only paid $560.00 and it had a 3 month old battery and 1 yr. old tires, so I thought it would be worth a shot.
What I did is tow it to the shop, 1 hr. drive away, and then drove it back. It drove great almost the whole way but I stoped at an exit just a few miles from my town and when I got on the onramp to get back on the highway it lost power and died. I tried to start it and it would start fine but would die again when i went to put it in drive. Finally on about the 6-8 try I got it to move and got back on the highway and it did ok until I exited at my exit and then died again. so after a few tries I got to a parking lot and when I popped the hood it was obvious what had happened, I had taken the inlet-throttle body hose off and not tightened the clam so it had seperated. Put it back together and tightened the clamp and ran great again.
Thanks for the help.
Chris

[stevetreacy]

Hi

Cambelt should be changed every 54000 miles so i would change yours if youve no history. Replace the rollers while your there.

steve

[chrishandy28]

Hi

Cambelt should be changed every 54000 miles so i would change yours if youve no history. Replace the rollers while your there.

steve

Is that part of the timing belt change?
I had a porsche 944 and you always change the bal. shaft belt when you change the timing belt so is the cam belt a similar situation? I haven't been inside this engine yet so I'm not familiar with the "layout".

[sgould]

UK/US terminology!!

Cambelt and timing belt are the same thing!

[sgould]

This is the auxiliary belt that drives the alternator, aircon etc.

[sgould]

Behind that is the timing/cam belt.  A Saab garage will use a special tool to lock the drive sprockets in place while changing the belt.