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davidjay

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Turn the key - nothing happens
« on: 01 July 2011, 08:04:02 PM »
2005 95 auto. Just lately when I turn the ignition on there's no response - totally dead. Try again and it works. It's only happened in the last week or two and seems to be getting more regular. Any ideas?

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #1 on: 01 July 2011, 08:53:45 PM »
Stating the obvious, but ensure that it is properly engaged in Park or Neutral before turning the key.  It will not start if lever in any other position.

I could get an auto started on the way on holiday once, so took the other car.   All it was was this.  Oops.

If that doesn't work then its something more serious.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #2 on: 01 July 2011, 09:15:34 PM »
As above, even if it is in park, does the dash display show this?
Best guess would be the range switch on the gearbox.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #3 on: 01 July 2011, 10:20:40 PM »
It's definitely in Park; I don't have to touch the lever to get it to start next time. Please don't use the word 'serious' - it invariably translates as 'expensive'.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #4 on: 01 July 2011, 11:23:57 PM »
It could be the contact switch on the bottom of the key housing.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #5 on: 02 July 2011, 12:33:33 AM »
Thanks. I'm off on holiday tomorrow so after a three hour drive it'll be in a car park for a fortnight. I'll see how it goes from there.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #6 on: 20 July 2011, 01:01:15 PM »
Sounds like the same problem I had - see my thread here at http://www.saabscene.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31652547&hl=switch&st=0

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #7 on: 21 July 2011, 03:36:58 AM »
Does this occur when you have not used the car for a while, or does it occur when you have made a short trip to the filling station, for example,  and the car has not fully warmed up?  When you return after paying, you find it will not start?

It could be something elusive like mikeloadsasaabs issue, or it could be one of the more common automatic transmission Saab problems, such as the neutral safety switch (NSS) (also called range switch) or the crank position sensor.

If it occurs when the car is stone cold, I would say it is probably not the NSS as that seems to be a failure that affects Saabs after short trips and resolves when the engine cools below a certain point. 

If it is the NSS, there are various things on Saab websites describing people wiring switches in to bypass it (I am not sure that's a great idea), to pouring water on the switch to cool it when the fault occurs and then the car will start.  That can be an inexpensive way of excluding or confirming a diagnosis.

Ultimately, if it is the NSS it will need replacing.  It cost about A$500 over here but I imagine it may be cheaper in the UK.

Good luck, be sure to let us know what the outcome is.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #8 on: 31 July 2011, 12:30:12 AM »
It happens at all times; hot engine, first thing in the morning, middle of the day, after long journeys or when I've just gone to the shops. I'm having it serviced next week and I've been told by Bagnall that it's probably a common fault which costs about £80 + 1.5 hours servicing. I'll let you know what it is.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #9 on: 01 August 2011, 07:17:45 PM »
Definitely not the CPS, anyway - that doesn't prevent it cranking, just won't let it start.

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #10 on: 05 August 2011, 09:39:57 PM »
Some connector under the gear transmission had gone. £110 plus two hours labour plus VAT. Ouch.

On that subject, what would a reasonable labour charge at an indie be these days?

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #11 on: 05 August 2011, 11:24:27 PM »
On that subject, what would a reasonable labour charge at an indie be these days?

Bagnall is generally regarded as a reasonable indie - what did they charge? :)

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Re: Turn the key - nothing happens
« Reply #12 on: 06 August 2011, 12:13:20 AM »
£48 per hour + VAT.