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Folding mirror replacement.
« on: 14 April 2013, 11:00:51 PM »
I have had problems with the folding bit of the passenger mirror.  Sometimes it would, sometimes it wouldn't.  Sometime it would go part way.  All completely random.

I bought a folding mirror from a 2003 car to fit today.  I expected to just strip it and change the two coloured panels, to my surprise, the folding mirror I got did not have the memory function.

So I had to change the internal loom and motor in the mirror.  I did this once before on my old car, but that had no fold and changing the loom and motor was easy.  On the folding mirror, the wires go through the tube that forms the hinge of the fold.  This means that all the pins in all the connectors had to be removed before threading it all through.  Fourteen wires in all. 

But it's done and it works.

Up to now I had tried all sorts of cleaning and lubing of the hinge to try and get the fold to work, but it was never solved.  But the replacement mirror had some additional connectors in the wiring and it became clear that the electronic block in the mirror had been replaced.  This got me thinking that this bit senses the current and cuts it if the mirror load is high.  If I'm right, then if this goes faulty, it would give the symptoms I had - false detecting of high loads.

So if your folding mirror doesn't it may be worth finding a working mirror and just clip out that block and splice it in. I can't see it as a separate part.
« Last Edit: 14 April 2013, 11:02:50 PM by sgould »
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Re: Folding mirror replacement.
« Reply #1 on: 15 April 2013, 08:01:51 PM »
Mine fold but the NS one doesn't dip on reverse. I know this is a common problem but does anyone know a usual cause?

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Re: Folding mirror replacement.
« Reply #2 on: 15 April 2013, 08:43:45 PM »
Someone  has suggested that the reverse dip switch gets gummed up, but I'm not convinced on that because mine has just started working again! The common factors for me seem to be dry and warm. If it's raining or cold, it can be temperamental.

I subscribe to sgould's theory that the fold/dip module is false detecting the end of travel (typically done by high load) but because it 'fixes itself' I don't think the unit is actually faulty, rather it might be water ingress (maybe just the damp). Once it is better weather they are coming off for the alloy to be painted and I will examine the module then.

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Re: Folding mirror replacement.
« Reply #3 on: 15 April 2013, 10:46:49 PM »
Unfortunately it's this bit and it's completely sealed with resin.

This is the bit that's been swapped on the replacement.
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Re: Folding mirror replacement.
« Reply #4 on: 16 April 2013, 01:21:51 PM »
Sgould,

May I ask what the 'going rate' is for a replacement.

I really need to replace my full mirror and glass.

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Re: Folding mirror replacement.
« Reply #5 on: 16 April 2013, 02:45:12 PM »
My driver one foods half way. Passenger one fine. Think I will just live with it - everyone in a car park seems to prefer to ding my door panels rather than my mirrors anyway....

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Re: Folding mirror replacement.
« Reply #6 on: 16 April 2013, 03:50:22 PM »
Price seems to vary a lot.  Depends on which year, whether folding or not, whether dimming or not.  Anything from £30 to £100 depending on the source.  Perhaps a bit more from some commercial breakers.
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