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surface scratches
« on: 24 July 2011, 07:18:58 PM »
what should i use to make scratches on my black saab Greer to spot?

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #1 on: 24 July 2011, 09:38:39 PM »
that was meant to be black saab seem less noticeable.

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #2 on: 24 July 2011, 10:24:08 PM »
Hello Freddie, I'm glad you cleared that up!

There is a lot you can do but it depends how bad the scratching is. Im assuming its the tiny scratches that look like very fine spiderwebs all over the paint when you look at it in sunlight? Thats known as 'swirling' and is caused from particles of dirt being caught in the sponge and/or polishing cloths when you clean the car.
Much of that damage can be taken out using an orbital or rotary machine polisher and suitable polishes. This is something you need to research properly before attempting to do it yourself as it is possible to damage your paint. It can also be done by hand but is lot of work.

What you can start doing now: Throw away the sponges and Chamois leathers. Get yourself a Chenile, or preferably a Lambswool washmitta bucket that will take a 'gritguard' , and some good microfibre drying towels and loads of microfibre polishing cloths.

I heartily recommend you sign up with Detailing World . You will find vast amounts of information there - it will be a bit confusing at first, particularly the abbreviations used there. But just ask and you'll find out.

If the damage isn't too severe you might like to try AutoGlym Super resin polish easily available from Halfords apply with a sponge applicator in small circles to a thoroughly washed and dryied car. This is very slightly abrasive polish and will also help  'fill' the scratching and also give a small amount of protection, then finally apply wax such as Meguiars NXT Tech Wax 2.0 liquid  (Halfords again) and leave it about 45 mins before polishing off with microfibre cloths. Then repeat. If the swirling is bad then perhaps use Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine - I have not used it personally but think its slightly more cutting then the resin Polish.
The polishes and waxes are a personal choice, and it is ultimately up to you which ones you like using. I have named these because of the ease of availability in Halfords.
For more specialist items like the Gritguard or alternative polishes and waxes, you will need to look further afield to suppliers such as  Elite; Ultimate finish; Clean Your Car; Autobrite; or CarWash n Wax

If the surface feels rough it will probably be tar and/or tree-sap and claying should be carried out before polishing and waxing on a freshly washed rinsed and dried car. Sap and tar can be removed using a Meguiars clay-kit also available in Halfords but cut the clay into two you only need a small piece. The video posted below shows using the whole piece.

http://www.palmbeachmotoring.net/ascg-videos/clay-bar.html Claying

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7598756069207401372 Two bucket wash method


http://www.autogeek.net/auto-detailing-resource-center.html
Scroll down for more videos
« Last Edit: 25 July 2011, 06:40:28 AM by Trenchfoot »

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #3 on: 03 August 2011, 06:16:39 PM »
Hello all,

Some kind sole has keyed my car all along rear quarter panel and rear door and just onto front door. The sctatch is bare metal at the start and fades away on the front door. Have filled it with beeswax and polish to protect until i can get it sorted. It really needs body shop attention but not willing to lay out for that just yet. Have purchased a genuine touch up kit , two pack, colour and laquer and was wondering if anybody has any useful tips for application. Also I know you can get genuine cans of spray but can you also get cans of genuine lacquer or will any enamel lacqer do? thanks guys

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #4 on: 03 August 2011, 10:14:40 PM »
When a removal van scraped my mirror housing, I got the colour spray and clear lacquer as a pack. However it was from the now defunct Elkparts...

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #5 on: 04 August 2011, 05:05:41 AM »
Steve, I'm very sorry to hear this has happened.  Take a look HERE, there is a mine of information about that sort of repair.
I'm pretty certain I have heard there are specialists that deal with this kind of thing, so it may be worth trawling the yellow pages to see if you can find anyone doing 'Smart paint repairs'

UPDATE:
I just looked on DW and it suggests if it has gone down to, or through the primer, it's a respray. However, go to the search menu and look up 'stone chip' - There is an article there that my be of interest to you! A lot of people have had success with that technique. Also, a note about mobile repairs. The paint they use needs to cure under lamps so it's not going to be as good as workshop paint, therefore if the quote for the work is near that of a bodyshop repairer I'd choose the bodyshop.

http://viktroncarclinic.co.uk/ have good reviews

Also - http://www.chipsaway.co.uk/ regarded as "OK" but not always the 'best' - they're a franchise so its only as good as the individual that comes to do the job
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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #6 on: 04 August 2011, 06:11:17 AM »
I wouldn't use anybody that comes to you, smart repairs are sub standard and use poor products that don't last.

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #7 on: 06 August 2011, 07:57:50 PM »
Have today touched in the scratch using genuine touch up paint. took three applications in places, but i was able to do the fine parts of the scratch with just the enamel. Now i can see it but its a lot bettter to look at than the scratch was, so for now am happy. Have a question however? do you have to cover the touch up paint with the enamel as well, i would have thought so but havent just yet

thanks

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #8 on: 07 August 2011, 09:21:14 PM »
Have today touched in the scratch using genuine touch up paint. took three applications in places, but i was able to do the fine parts of the scratch with just the enamel. Now i can see it but its a lot bettter to look at than the scratch was, so for now am happy. Have a question however? do you have to cover the touch up paint with the enamel as well, i would have thought so but havent just yet

thanks

steve
Steve, how did you get all the polish that you'd put into the scratch out? T-cut or the like?

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Re: surface scratches
« Reply #9 on: 10 August 2011, 06:30:57 PM »
i washed first with soapy water then dried and then wiped with Iso-Propyl Alcohol from our workshop to clean up before painting

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