Traction control fault message?

[carrera]

Another alternative is Tech2win

https://vxdiag.com/pages/gm-gds2-and-tech2win

It's a PC based emulator which uses the bit of kit that you use to access the NG 9-5 with the later GM GDS software. Get that & you get the Tech2 bit for free.

I have it running in a Win10 standalone laptop, and a VMware virtual machine

Tested it out, just for fun & it seemed to do what a proper Tech 2 would do... but you do need a bit of PC expertise to get it working

Update:

I tried to use this in anger this morning

It doesn't work in an OG 9-5, something to do with the i-bus vs p-bus communications

But it does work on NG 9-3, apparently, but I cannot test that

https://www.saabcentral.com/threads/tech2win-no-communication-with-dice-help-needed.748902/

[Steve McF]

Used the Aero for the first time in a couple of weeks. Started it up, no faults.....idled for about 40 seconds and suddenly 'bing bong' "traction control fault".

So cleared the SiD and drove over to my mechanic (not a Saab specialist), who tried two different diagnostic systems on the car. Both came up with this code relating to traction control system/ABS module:

ff,00,e1,05

Just wondered if that means anything specific to anyone?

[Steve McF]

Oh and I then drove the 3 miles or so home with no fault codes or bing bongs at all!!

[aerojon]

your diag tool can't read the abs/tc module..

[Steve McF]

Yeah going to try and get the car booked in with Bagnalls to investigate.

[Steve McF]

The Aero has been confined to sitting in the garage for much of the last few weeks, with the battery disconnected because of the random alarm and the traction control fault. I've been moving it in and out of the garage whilst I am painting the inside of it (the garage, not the Aero!!!), although I did use it the other day to give it a bit of a blast.

Looking forward to getting it to Bagnalls next week to get it all sorted, including the small oil leak. I've been wanting to get that Stage 1 remap at Noobtune for a long time, but wanted to make sure he's running OK first. Hopefully won't be anything massively expensive to sort out, but will find out next week!!! And they might put me back in a 9-5 courtesy car again, which is always a chance for me to reminisce about my own that I had all those years ago (and still miss to this day!!)!

[Steve McF]

Well, I have still not managed to get to Bagnall's. The courtesy car they'd lined up for me was not returned on the day I was due to go up, and has subsequently still not been returned as I found out this morning. So someone has booked their Saab in for some work, taken a courtesy car, and not made it back to collect their own!!! And this is now days later. They said they were struggling to get in touch with the customer - which might suggest something has happened: illness, accident, in hospital etc 

Anyway, as I was due to take the car to them last week, I reconnected the battery and used the car for 2 or 3 days to try and induce the traction control fault again. And depite motorway driving, A roads, B roads, cross country etc, there was no sign of the traction control fault!!! Until, after a couple of days, I had driven home, and not far from home as I was in traffic, and just puling away turning left at a nearby roundbout, "bing bong", momentary limp home/loss of power, and "Traction Control System fault" message on the SiD.

It then did it another couple of times in the next 24 hours, so I have not disconnected the battery since to ensure the fault codes don't get wiped.

Just hope I can rebook the car in soon to get it looked at. These niggly things get on my nerves - just want them sorted. The oil leak is the other main thing (possibly crank seal).

In the mean time though, is there anything simple I can check myself regarding the traction control fault? Wiring/connections/sensors cleaning etc?

[Steve McF]

Finally got the car booked in with Bagnalls in a couple of weeks again. I've been going out on drives trying to get the fault again and covered a lot of miles with no fault appearing.

Until I got to work this morning. As I was reversing into a parking space, bing bong, and 'stability control failure' message on the SiD, which soon changed to 'traction control failure'.

Will see what the car is like later, but I did notice when I got in the car and tried to start it, I turned the key, all usual dash lights on, yet nothing happened - no cranking, nothing. Took the key out, then tried again, and it started ok. Not sure if these things are connected, or my car is just falling apart ha ha 

[Steve McF]

Today, Jet, the black Aero, made it to Bagnals in Brum!!

I was hopeful that they'd find the cause of the traction control/stability control fault, as it had a done it a few times in the last few days. Yet, despite that, no fault codes were stored!!

And despite road testing and running on the ramp, the traction control fault would not manifest itself at all, so they couldn't capture any codes.

All sensors and modules are working ok, and all wiring is intact and ok. So Fraser has cleaned everything up, and suggested I just drive it and if it does it again, to get it back to them.

Only other thing was the oil leak, which was due to the crank seal. So all done for far less than what I was expecting to be paying, but with a question mark over what the cause of the traction control issue was!!

Drove home and car was great, and no faults at all. I am hoping that the cleaning of the sensors and connections, and refitting everything may have sorted it......will see.............

[aerojon]

could be a cracked reluctor ring..

[ScarbSaab]

I was going to suggest the same. I hadn't noticed anything untoward like the classic ABS buzzing when slowing to a stop, mine only triggered when I got above 60mph. So it didn't show around town, only when I was well into a journey.

[sgould]

The 9-3 doesn’t have reluctor rings…

[Steve McF]

When it did do it, it seemed a bit random.

a) 75mph on the motorway
b) 50mph country roads
c) Low speed crawling in traffic
d) Pulling away from a junction
e) Idling on the driveway soon after starting
f) Reversing into a parking space

No real pattern, just all of the above at different times!!!!

[sgould]

It does sound like a dodgy connection on a wheel speed sensor. 

[Steve McF]

If it was, I'm hoping he may have fixed it during checking everything,  cleaning it all, and reconnecting everything!!

The fault has not reappeared since I left central Birmingham yesterday, and I took the car to work and back today, and did a bit of a run out on country and town roads this evening.