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Wash leather
« on: 15 October 2011, 05:49:15 PM »
Any tips on how to keep a leather in nice condition? Spent a lot on a nice one from Halfords a few months ago. When I use it, while I am washing the car I have it soaking in warm water in which I have poured a small quantity of vinegar. Once I have finished leathering off the car, I squeeze it dry (I do not wring it like a corkscrew) and hang it out to dry. When it has dried, it has lost its nice soft feel, and even after soaking before using it again, it somehow does not feel as soft as when it was new. Maybe that is how leathers are but would like it to be soft before using it to dry the car after washing it.

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #1 on: 15 October 2011, 07:08:46 PM »
Sorry, to be blunt, but IMHO you should bin it and buy a microwave cloth.  If you still have a sponge, bin that as well, and use a sheepskin mitt.

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #2 on: 15 October 2011, 07:41:23 PM »
Sorry, to be blunt, but IMHO you should bin it and buy a microwave cloth.  If you still have a sponge, bin that as well, and use a sheepskin mitt.

Have a look on detailing world website

Don't mind the blunt response a bit! My lad has been on at me for ages to use micro cloths. (did you mean microfibre? We have a lot of those) Already stopped using sponges even when I had the Rover 45. I do have a sheepskin pad, very good it is too. (I still use a sponge for the wheels)
Thanks again.
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ETA: PS - my lad uses a lot of Meguires products on his Evo, and has a Meguires Water Magnet which I will have a go with next Fri on one of my days off.
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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #3 on: 15 October 2011, 10:43:47 PM »
Sorry, to be blunt, but IMHO you should bin it and buy a microwave cloth.  If you still have a sponge, bin that as well, and use a sheepskin mitt.

Have a look on detailing world website

I'll second all of what Baxlin has to say here.
Pete - Sheepskin washmitts do far less damage. Ideally you would use a bucket containing a gritguard too. Use a large microfibre towel for drying the car off too, never a leather

Also try and keep the same microfibre cloths for the same jobs every time, that way you dont get polish all over the interior or windows etc.
Mine are coloured and I have loads. The light blue ones are for taking off polish. The pink ones for buffing off the wax (oooer!). Yellow ones for glass. Green ones for interior trim, and darker blue ones for leather.
Also, get some foam applicator pads for applying polishes and wax and dont muddle those up - I used a fat permanent marker to mark what each one is for.

EDIT: Don't buy the Halfords sheepskin washmitt as they tend to fall to bits in a short time. Try and get one by Meguiars - they last for years
« Last Edit: 15 October 2011, 10:57:34 PM by Trenchfoot »

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #4 on: 16 October 2011, 07:03:19 AM »
Oops, I meant microWEAVE -stupid predictive typing (and proofreading on my part).   

Also very much ditto Trenchfoot's comment about Halfords  and Megs  sheepskin mitts.  Halfrauds are absolute rubbish.

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #5 on: 16 October 2011, 11:00:59 AM »
Sorry, to be blunt, but IMHO you should bin it and buy a microwave cloth.  If you still have a sponge, bin that as well, and use a sheepskin mitt.

Have a look on detailing world website

I'll second all of what Baxlin has to say here.
Pete - Sheepskin washmitts do far less damage. Ideally you would use a bucket containing a gritguard too. Use a large microfibre towel for drying the car off too, never a leather

Also try and keep the same microfibre cloths for the same jobs every time, that way you dont get polish all over the interior or windows etc.
Mine are coloured and I have loads. The light blue ones are for taking off polish. The pink ones for buffing off the wax (oooer!). Yellow ones for glass. Green ones for interior trim, and darker blue ones for leather.
Also, get some foam applicator pads for applying polishes and wax and dont muddle those up - I used a fat permanent marker to mark what each one is for.

EDIT: Don't buy the Halfords sheepskin washmitt as they tend to fall to bits in a short time. Try and get one by Meguiars - they last for years

Nice one - very good advice, taken on board.


Oops, I meant microWEAVE -stupid predictive typing (and proofreading on my part).   

Also very much ditto Trenchfoot's comment about Halfords  and Megs  sheepskin mitts.  Halfrauds are absolute rubbish.

The sheepskin mitt I have is one from our local Pound shop - it has lasted for all the time I have had the Saab (Apr last year) and does a good job. My lad has the Meguires one and I will probably get one eventually.
Re all the above, I am grateful for the tips; my car will never be up to show standard as it is a workhorse (eg 12k miles in the last 6 months!) but I do want to keep it looking nice. What I call balls-out detailing is what my lad practices on his Evo (his play car) and he has a nice stock of Meguires products in his garage.
Thanks again
Pete

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #6 on: 16 October 2011, 12:55:33 PM »
Pete - getting slightly off topic a bit with this, but out of interest, what colour is/are your car/s?

Some folk don't give a hoot about looking after cars to the extent I do, and would no doubt consider me totally anal about it, but I enjoy doing it and find the results hugely rewarding.
I'm not one for spivving a car up to the extent it is to 'show-standard', but I am keen to preserve and protect it as much as possible wherever I can.

It's a tad long-winded but nevertheless very informative and points you in the right direction of the methods to use, but take a look at the following video...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7598756069207401372

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #7 on: 16 October 2011, 04:05:10 PM »
Pete - getting slightly off topic a bit with this, but out of interest, what colour is/are your car/s?

Some folk don't give a hoot about looking after cars to the extent I do, and would no doubt consider me totally anal about it, but I enjoy doing it and find the results hugely rewarding.
I'm not one for spivving a car up to the extent it is to 'show-standard', but I am keen to preserve and protect it as much as possible wherever I can.

It's a tad long-winded but nevertheless very informative and points you in the right direction of the methods to use, but take a look at the following video...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7598756069207401372

Ta - I'll look at the vid tonight when I get home (can't view it here at work)
My lad's Evo is a sort of Electric Blue, my Saab fusion Blue.

The day I got it in Apr last year:


And this July just back after a week in the New forest:

NB - the car has all our gear in the back including the awning, the caravan has the correct noseweight, and amazingly the outfit sits nice and level without any spring assisters. It also tows fantastically stable. (how about that for a bit of O/T? Sorry mods....)
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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2011, 07:32:24 PM »

NB - the car has all our gear in the back including the awning, the caravan has the correct noseweight, and amazingly the outfit sits nice and level without any spring assisters. It also tows fantastically stable. (how about that for a bit of O/T? Sorry mods....)

heheh - duly reported  ;D ;D

The reason I was asking about colour was that sometimes this can help influence your choice which polish to use and which wax to finish it with. Silver and white are two colours that are hard to get to look deeply shiny. Those blues should look awesome with a deep wet-looking glossy wax applied!

More on this subject later - I have just been given the nod to leave work - I should be here until 11pm and as it's my last day for a while, so   I'm about to jump in the car and head to the hills. The Cotswold ones.  :D
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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #9 on: 16 October 2011, 08:01:48 PM »
Hi
Need to get on with a bit of work now. Just a quick note to say have to agree about the blues - they do look nice; my lad clayed half my bonnet recently and got quite a bit of muck off and I had thought it was clean! May get round to doing it all but wouldn't be able to on a regular basis...
I'll have a quick look when I get home at the vid, but don't have a lot of time as I get home from LHR at about 10.50 pm and have to at least say hello to my OH before going on the 'net. Will post a quick reply.

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #10 on: 16 October 2011, 09:47:47 PM »
Hi,

Got to agree with the 'blue' thing, they look great clean. My 9-3 SS is fusion blue.

I've just clayed (bilt hamber), waxed (turtle wax blue stuff with a chip stick) and sealed (auto glym extra gloss protection) this week whilst I've been off work and in the sun today it looked great! (Even if I do say so myself).

I also re-blacked my black (grey...) bits with auto glym trim dye and then bumper care.

I love shiny cars.  :)

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #11 on: 16 October 2011, 11:12:30 PM »
Trenchfoot - will have to watch that vid on Wed, first of my days off - need to spend some q time with OH. (looks really good) Bignick - yes, the Fusion is nice. I take it your grey bits were mainly the mirrir bases? Mine look really nice now, agreed after only one wash since Satin Black spray but we will see how it lasts.

ETA:
Watched the vid after all - wife tired & went to bed early. All I have to say about the video - WOW.
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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #12 on: 17 October 2011, 01:34:00 PM »
Petemate, Yeah, mainly mirror bases. I did all the trim though.

I used a brush last time (just over a year ago) I coloured them but I didn't like the finish (streaky), used an old flannel this time and it is much more even now.

I'll be getting myself one of them lambswool wash mitts too, they sound good, about £9.00 on amazon.

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #13 on: 23 October 2011, 02:49:49 PM »
Washed the car yesterday morning, used the two-bucket method. Haven't got a lambswool mitt yet (just my micro-fibre thingy with the golly hairdo), nor a grit grate thingy. BUT - golly, the amount of muck in the second bucket was amazing when I finally emptied it. Also when drying the car with a micro cloth, the result was a thousand times better then with a leather - NO water marks whatever. WELL pleased. There were some fine streaks on the glass though, but these disappeared with a quick wipe over with a clean, dry duster.

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Re: Wash leather
« Reply #14 on: 23 October 2011, 07:54:07 PM »
Those 'Noodle' washmitts arent too bad Pete. But the Lambswool is definately better. Either way the Golly hairdo is better than the sponge.

Yes! It's surprising the amount of grit on the bodywork when you think there isn't any - it shocked me too!

If you do get yourself a Gritguard later, (or two, if using two-bucket method) be advised that the Gritguard is actually a bit bigger than your average bucket. You can cut them down, but they are tough, so be darned careful about how you do it or you will be doing DIY amputatations.

Another tip is get light coloured buckets - that way you can see that you have got all the grit out of them before the next wash. Some people like translucent buckets so they can see the water level from the side but these are a slightly more brittle plastic. (Though that problem may have been addressed by now).

Periodically, I remove my wheels for a wash and clean on the inside, which gives me an opportunity to look for damage on the brake hoses or leaks etc.
There is a lot of debate on waxes for wheels but it's generally accepted that a sealant is better than just wax. I use Planet Polish Wheel Seal and Shine and found it to be excellent. Dont bother with the sponge applicators because any foam applicator will do. I was stunned at how small the bottle was when it arrived, but it lasts ages.

And finally Pete, for your glass, try Meguiars glass cleaner with a roll of workshop (blue) paper, you can feel the dirt coming out! (I use THIS STUFF)

EDIT:
You might try experimenting with different waxes after polishing with, say AutoGlym Super Resin Polish.
Try Meguiars NXT Techwax (Halfords) gives a great long lasting shine that water just rolls off.
Also, and this is my favourite for a real gloss wet-looking shine, Colinite 845 Insulator Wax - even makes silver and white cars look like they have a deep shine! This is now my established favourite.

Claying - do it thoroughly, once every two/three years.

My method:
Pressure-wash car down with just water to loosen/soften dirt.
Snow-foam car (15/20 mins dwell time). Rinse off.
Wash car using two-bucket method, and thoroughly rinse.
(If Claying - now clay car, then, repeat the two bucket wash/rinse.)
Thoroughly dry car with microfibre drying towels.
Polish with AutoGlym Super resin Polish. Remove all polish residue.
Wax with Colinite 845 (Dwell time 45 mins). Remove wax
Repeat wax with Colinite 845 as before, with 45 mins dwell time.
Clean glass (Meguiars glass cleaner)
Stand back and admire results



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