Remote issue....

Started by DelticDaz, 07 May 2014, 12:40:43 PM

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sgould

Ooops! :-[ :-[

Getting my cars mixed up here.  Apologies.  Audax is right. 
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DelticDaz

Hmmmm..thanks thought it might be the CIM.....

DelticDaz

 :-[ :-[ :-[ £700 to fix via approved Saab repair centre..... :(

sgould

What year is your car?  The newer CIM units are a bit cheaper.

Maybe worth talking to ECU Testing and BBA Reman.  They might repair yours.
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sgould

Here's a link.

http://www.bba-reman.com/content.aspx?content=Saab-9-3-CIM

But speak to ECU Testing too.  http://www.ecutesting.com/   They usually do all the same stuff but cheaper.
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DelticDaz

Its a 56 with the newer shaped dash.....thanks for links...!

Audax

Quote from: DelticDaz on 10 May 2014, 11:01:46 AM
Its a 56 with the newer shaped dash.....thanks for links...!

Not sure who you spoke to but whoever gave you that quote is having a laugh, a brand new genuine CIM is available for about £250, even if you allowed 1 hour of fitting at £100 and an £50 Tech-2 fee then you're looking at £400. Saab quote 0.7 hours to replace a CIM which would include programming and clearing of codes so I'd expect it to not be any more than this.

sgould

That was the thought that crossed my mind. I haven't had a chance to check the EPC this morning, but I remember the price dropping.  I think that there are a couple of CIMs available depending on whether your car is petrol or diesel.  There are another couple for cars without electronic stability, but I don't think any of those came to the UK.  Could be wrong though.
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DelticDaz

Said I'd get 2 news keys at £55 each.....spoke to service bloke at Bowetts Leeds.

Audax

Quote from: DelticDaz on 10 May 2014, 12:29:36 PM
Said I'd get 2 news keys at £55 each.....spoke to service bloke at Bowetts Leeds.

Do you need new keys? when you program a cim unit you can reuse old keys or add new ones, you don't need to replace them.

Anyway there's about 3 or 4 different CIM modules for the UK, there was a rationalisation a few years back, the early cars had a choice of traction or ESP which is one difference and because of that early cars can have a choice and the TCS module is more expensive, but every car post-2006 (possibly 2007) is the same module as far as I am aware.

sgould

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There seems to be three "sets" of CIM. 

2002-2004  Several versions All replaced by the 2004 model.
2005-2010  All previous versions replaced by the 2009/10 model.
2011 model.

Then another lot labelled with "ESP"

If your car is a 2007 model you would have one of three CIMs.

This one with no ESP (unlikely that you have this):

Article : Electric Module
PartNo : 12769671
Usage : 2007, AU, EU, GB, LA, 433, 92 MHZ, NLS-USE 12842076
Order Quantity : 1


Or one of these, for cars with ESP, depending on chassis number:

Article : Electric Module
PartNo : 12769673
Usage : 2007, 433, 92 MHZ  ESP, NLS-USE 12842078
Order Quantity : 1


Article : Electric Module
PartNo : 12777263
Usage : 2007, 433, 92 MHZ  ESP, NLS-USE 12842078
Order Quantity : 1


So, if you get a new one, you will need either 12842076 (no  ESP) or 12842078 (with ESP)

You probably need 12842078 which has a Saab list price of £285.76 + VAT = £343.  To which you add the fitting.

If you know someone experienced with a Tech2, you could buy a CIM for a bit less and fit it yourself + the Tech2 session.  But the car would not be drivable during the fitting process, so all the work needs to be done in one place.


But I would still investigate a repair by one of the companies linked to earlier.  You would (should) get it back ready to refit with no Tech2 needed.
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DelticDaz

I have the 2 original keys that came with the car.....

DelticDaz

Ok thanks.....going ring round and see what other approved service center's say....

DelticDaz

I'll give Saabtech in Glossop and Gordon Lamb's in Sheffield a ring Monday and see if either can do it a bit cheaper.

DelticDaz

Whilst all this has been happening my car has been sat in the yard at work in Leeds.....every time I call in the yard I try my fob and it has worked every time.....bizzare.....watch this space....!