Hirsch upgrade 2.2tid

[Norfolk Jim]

Well - the pennies are in and the date is booked.......................

Next Friday I should be grining ear to ear as the car is booked into my main dealers for the Hirsch upgrade.

My car is 55 reg 2.2tid estate so currently 120hp and I think 280Nm torque. The Hirsch remap is 145hp and 330nm so a nice sensible increase with even better fuel economy!

As you may know all my other cars have been tuned by Abbotts but in this instance with Hirsch 30% disc it was too hard to say know at £560!! I know I could get some discount from Abbotts but they are currently £499 +VAT so £1.20 under £600. I would also have a round trip of 3 hrs and approx 120 miles. My main dealer is 6 miles away!

Having said that I had a long chat with Ed Abbott and he's been driving around in one for about 6 months and loves it. His has their remap of 145hp but he's added their hi flow intercooler and sports exhaust with no cat and he reckons that leaves even tuned aero's in mid range but intercooler another 525 + exhaust approx £300 - thats any budget blown but food for thought later. He also reckons his is averaging 48 around the lanes and town and he reahced 59 on tank refill following a long run.........................

SO next weekend look out for cheesy grins all round

[sgould]

Enjoy!

I suspect he performance will be better all round, but compared to the petrol Aero it could replicate my experience of a Hirsched 1.8t petrol versus a standard Aero 2.0T.  Better at low revs but losing out at higher revs.  But, how often in the real world are you driving at high revs?

[Norfolk Jim]

Exactly Will.

I tend to be a lazy driver sometimes and just change up as soon as I can and let the torque do the rest.

No point revving a diesel to upper limits when a higher gear and lower revs often propel you far quicker.

I found last night that overtaking at about 50 was far better in 5th than 4th. In my aero though it was often fun to hold her in the lowest gear possible and change at last minute just to eek that last drop. I really like the lazy way of the diesel which is un fussed and quicker than you think!

[Audax]

His has their remap of 145hp but he's added their hi flow intercooler and sports exhaust with no cat and he reckons that leaves even tuned aero's in mid range

Sorry, just no way. No way *ever* will a tuned 2.2 beat a tuned Aero.

[Norfolk Jim]

Well all I know is that he's played with it and it turns out something around 440 Nm but not on standard clutch - their special clutch. He's probably done stuff to it that they wouldn't do for customers

Knowing him as well as I do I have no reason to disbelieve him he is afterall a Jaguar Race engineer and has raced Saab for a long long time and held record for fastest normally aspirated car round the Ring! They also supply quite a number of fully race prepd cars for Japan...........................

But then I could be completely wrong but all I can say is he wouldn't drive around in a diesel if it wasn't bl**dy quick. I've sat next to him in a developement car and could easily have left stains in the seat many time over and I'm not afradi of speed

[Audax]

Their page for the remap says 144hp and 330nm so, erm, it's not the 144hp remap that he is running. I call shenanigans on this, I certainly don't believe these claims taking them on face value.

[gbski]

'I should be grining ear to ear as the car is booked into my main dealers for the Hirsch upgrade.'   Agreed. 

I had mine done last January.  I must admit I don't get anything like that fuel consumption but my overall mileage has dropped a lot and shorter trips after a job change.

[Norfolk Jim]

Yep - really looking forward to it. Since getting the car it has averaged out now to about 45 mpg o/a but on a trip of 40 miles it steaily rose to just over 50 and showed 400 miles in half a tank.

Quino.... Note I put he'd added their own hi flow intercooler, exhaust, de-cat and sports back box but I can't comment o what else he and his technicans cooked up - I know they don't do certain things for customers so who knows.

I'm often amazed by some of these guys with 9000 aero's and 500 or more bhp. What extra have they done...................that we wouldn't normally do or be able to get hold off (legally)

[Audax]

Quino.... Note I put he'd added their own hi flow intercooler, exhaust, de-cat and sports back box but I can't comment o what else he and his technicans cooked up - I know they don't do certain things for customers so who knows.

Yes, I saw that but a 145hp ecu upgrade with 330nm and a intercooler and zorst will certainly not boost anything up to the kind of levels you were talking about. That's the context of me saying it's not possible. I'd quite happily believe it if there were other modifications too but almost doubling the torque output of an engine with an ECU mod and a new intercooler and exhaust would be pretty much unheard of.

[Norfolk Jim]

Thats what I said - I don't know what esle they have done to it. I agree just thos e few items won't do it but they do some weird and wonderful stuff to their race cars that you & I can't have so god knows whats been tinkered with!

[Audax]

Why can't we have it? There's plenty out there that you can get and even develop yourself if you have the time and money... 

[Norfolk Jim]

I've tried my hardest to get one of those trees to grow! I think there must be some sort of probelm with Growth. Tried doing a hedge as well but some Hedge something manager told me it wouldn't work.

[Geoff1951]

I've tried my hardest to get one of those trees to grow! I think there must be some sort of probelm with Growth. Tried doing a hedge as well but some Hedge something manager told me it wouldn't work.

Sorry Jim, I haven't got a clue what you're referring to here! 

[Max Headroom]

Heheh  - he's lost me too (Thank goodness  - I thought It was just me!  )

[gbski]

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